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Post by P_Synthesis on Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:35 am

Well in that case HighFive

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Post by Guest on Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:14 pm

Welcome PS. I'm the old man here. Heck I cried when the Dinosaurs died. I taught Adam & Eve all about the joys of sex. I changed Methuselahs diapers.


As far as for my own religious beliefs. I don't feel that any one faith/belief is the only right one or wrong one. Rather I believe they are all just different paths to the Divine. That's it in a nutshell. And oh yes. I'm also a refugee from both of the other places/sites/insane asylums named for many of the same reasons.

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Post by P_Synthesis on Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:22 am

Pleasure to meet you Warlord.

I taught Adam & Eve all about the joys of sex.

My bible is rusty, but doesn't that make you either a snake or an apple tree?


As far as for my own religious beliefs. I don't feel that any one faith/belief is the only right one or wrong one. Rather I believe they are all just different paths to the Divine.

There we are in agreement. Mind you I tend to find practices and people more interesting than 'beliefs'... should post about that come to think of it.

Did you ever follow any particular religion yourself?

PS On TV last night I discovered that the himalayas are younger than the dinosaurs. It must have been cool for you to watch those forming!

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Post by Guest on Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:21 am

P_Synthesis wrote:Pleasure to meet you Warlord.

I taught Adam & Eve all about the joys of sex.

My bible is rusty, but doesn't that make you either a snake or an apple tree?


As far as for my own religious beliefs. I don't feel that any one faith/belief is the only right one or wrong one. Rather I believe they are all just different paths to the Divine.

There we are in agreement. Mind you I tend to find practices and people more interesting than 'beliefs'... should post about that come to think of it.

Did you ever follow any particular religion yourself?

PS On TV last night I discovered that the Himalayas are younger than the dinosaurs. It must have been cool for you to watch those forming!

I think I'm more a apple tree. At one time I was Christian. In fact was a Christian for 55 years before I turned away for reasons too numerous to mention. But a little bit of background on those days. I'm a former Second Grade Sunday School Teacher, former Lay Youth Minister in two different denominations, & a ex-Elder in the Melchezedak Priesthood of the Mormon Religion. Which btw, I do not consider it to be a Christian Religion.

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Post by DotNotInOz on Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:15 pm

P_Synthesis wrote:PS On TV last night I discovered that the himalayas are younger than the dinosaurs. It must have been cool for you to watch those forming!

Not unless Alex got a better picture on rockavision than I did. It was a real hassle having to crawl up on the roof of the cave to jiggle the antenna every so often. Wink

In case you think I'm kidding, my father was thrilled no end when rotor antennas came into being and a turn of a dial switch could move the antenna to what would hopefully be a better position for receiving a given station. We got all of three stations pretty clearly then--about 1959--and a fourth was barely watchable no matter how much we rotated the antenna.

Those were the days when watching tv was still such a thrill that an evening was often planned around a show the family absolutely did not want to miss.

Now, we get several hundred channels, pay-per-view and on-demand movies, and I frequently can't find anything I really want to watch. Nothing like excess to induce ennui, I guess.
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Post by TigersEyeDowsing on Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:50 pm

Hey now, growing up we had- actually still HAVE - an old antenna in the backyard to get the 2.5 channels I had in the 90s. Blew out 3 TVs on it though, getting hit by lightning.

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Post by P_Synthesis on Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:03 pm

warlordofks wrote:I'm a former Second Grade Sunday School Teacher, former Lay Youth Minister in two different denominations, & a ex-Elder in the Melchezedak Priesthood of the Mormon Religion.

Sounds like quite a pile of experience to exchange for a late-blooming agnosticism there, warlord! You've got me curious what prompted it, if it's ok to ask... don't worry if not, but I'd love the next level of detail on why someone would change in that way (goes for anyone else too if you like). Not that on-t for my own intro thread perhaps, well maybe it is actually.

Dot wrote:Not unless Alex got a better picture on rockavision than I did. It was a real hassle having to crawl up on the roof of the cave to jiggle the antenna every so often.

Oh I believe ya Dot, but I actually didn't mean it must have been nice watching TV forming, I meant it must have been nice watching the Himalayas forming. Just trying to go with Warlord's joke there; if he was there when the dinosaurs died he must've been there when the Himalayas formed.

This may be the kind of humour that only English people get. confused

Now, we get several hundred channels, pay-per-view and on-demand movies, and I frequently can't find anything I really want to watch. Nothing like excess to induce ennui, I guess.

Ack, TV to me is a joke these days, human corruption on a plate. We'll soon need the local communities we exchanged for it, as well... I try to do stuff to bring that back. But I don't watch much if at all... it's just disinformation trying to whip up one's worst aspects from what I can see. US tv seems worst...

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Post by TigersEyeDowsing on Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:21 pm

I think reality TV is the worst curse to hit civilization since televangelism. I'm actually getting back into TV these days (ordered it for the first time this week! Wow!) but namely because I'm into a few shows, not into TV itself.

Right now at work I'm watching The Truman Show- I'd never seen it before. Very good points about Reality TV, the same thing Richard O'Brien did with Rocky Horror's sequel Shock Treatment but was relatively unknown except to us Rocky cult fans.

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Post by P_Synthesis on Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:25 pm

Oh I liked that movie. Come to think of it many things by Peter Weir, from Gallipoli to Witness to Master and Commander, show a level of craftsmanship to me that I don't often see around.

The great thing about Truman Show is that it's basically Gnosticism -- wouldn't you say?

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Post by TigersEyeDowsing on Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:29 pm

I know the premise and outline but I'll let you know once it goes off. Very Happy

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Post by P_Synthesis on Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:30 pm

oh, enjoy!

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Post by TigersEyeDowsing on Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:46 pm

I'm going to give you my favorite first-grader synopsis: It was good.

No, really, it was a pretty good movie. Not as good as The Magestic, if we're talking Jim Carrey, but yeah.

I wouldn't necessarily call The Truman Show Gnostic, but I would say that the higher meaning behind the movie is summed up when The Producer says "We accept the reality of the world with which we are presented." And that, of course "our world" isn't real, and we should be striving for the Real One.

The reason I'm not sticking it down as Gnostic is that Gnosticism's main focus is on the duality of nature, and I didn't see a whole lot of good-vs-evil in the film, just general deceit. I read in the summaries that many felt the film was a notation on Christianity; I see really it's presenting the 'higher truth' found in many religions, from Christianity to Islam to esoteric faiths like mine... most any faith that says "The world's a stage- There's a higher truth behind the curtain".

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Post by P_Synthesis on Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:25 pm

Yeah true.

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Post by P_Synthesis on Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:44 pm

Oops... came back to this after replying on the other thread and too late to modify.

As I mentioned there, I don't see the main point of Gnosticism as duality within nature -- if you do, that's obviously not a theme Truman.

But what I do know is big in Gnosticism is the idea that the physical world is not merely in some sense 'less real' -- it's also deliberately designed to be an illusion, a trap, a fake. That was what I found compellingly presented in Truman. Throughout Gnosticism there is a huge 'conspiracy theory' angle, in which you find the world presented as prison whose facade maintains our disempowerment within it by beguiling us with falsehood. That's the particular emphasis in Truman that brought it towards Gnosticism for me. Not that all Gnosticism went that far, but plenty did IIRC.

Personally, I wouldn't be able to agree with the idea that 'our world isn't real, and we should be striving for the real one' -- I think all worlds are real... so the film doesn't represent my own spiritual impulses, but it does represent that mindset real compellingly I thought, as well as making that neat join to the idea of reality TV and its replacement of our local lived and physical reality with something fake. Yeah good film.

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Post by DotNotInOz on Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:37 pm

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Dot wrote:Not unless Alex got a better picture on rockavision than I did. It was a real hassle having to crawl up on the roof of the cave to jiggle the antenna every so often.

Oh I believe ya Dot, but I actually didn't mean it must have been nice watching TV forming, I meant it must have been nice watching the Himalayas forming. Just trying to go with Warlord's joke there; if he was there when the dinosaurs died he must've been there when the Himalayas formed.

No, I got the joke. I was obliquely referring to the fact that Warlord lives in Kansas where I used to live, so I figured he wasn't where he could have watched the Himalayas being erected unless he was more of a world traveler than I was growing up. (He and I are about the same age.)

Hence, my reference to his likely having watched news stories of their formation on "rockavision."
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Post by P_Synthesis on Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:40 pm

Oh I see! Yep even with good eyesight, he'd probably have needed something of the kind. Not easy reporting job for the correspondent.

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Post by sacrificialgoddess on Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:43 pm

Sitting at home right now, watching season 1 episodes of Supernatural. Looking at cute boys' butts. Come to think of it, there are quite a few cute girls' butts on there, too.

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Post by DotNotInOz on Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:55 pm

On a similar tangent, I'm still majorly pissed off at HBO for screwing with the series True Blood, which is based on Charlaine Harris's Sookie Stackhouse series.

The HBO series concocts really stupid characters not in the books at all. I think it's largely the actress playing Sookie who gives the character far too much of a blonde twit slant. A large part of Sookie's characterization in the books is that she is a psychic who happens to be blonde and resents being thought dumb as a result. She's a strong and independent woman in the books who doesn't come across nearly as much so in True Blood.

The books are really cleverly crafted storytelling which I like much better than any of Harris's other series.

The major premise is that so-called "supernatural" beings like wereanimals and vampires actually exist. As the first book opens, vampires have recently won full rights as citizens in the U.S. and are gradually "coming out of the coffin" now that synthetic blood has been developed, making it easier for them to assimilate.
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Post by P_Synthesis on Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:58 pm

My wife said the same re Stackhouse. Still watched it though. Me, I don't.

Sitting at home right now, watching season 1 episodes of Supernatural. Looking at cute boys' butts. Come to think of it, there are quite a few cute girls' butts on there, too.

No shortage of those anywhere on tv. If there's one thing they know how to exploit, it's human beauty.

EDIT: Since my wife makes her living as a bellydancer, can I make such statements in such a tone? Laughing

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Post by sacrificialgoddess on Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:08 pm

DotNotInOz wrote:On a similar tangent, I'm still majorly pissed off at HBO for screwing with the series True Blood, which is based on Charlaine Harris's Sookie Stackhouse series.

The HBO series concocts really stupid characters not in the books at all. I think it's largely the actress playing Sookie who gives the character far too much of a blonde twit slant. A large part of Sookie's characterization in the books is that she is a psychic who happens to be blonde and resents being thought dumb as a result. She's a strong and independent woman in the books who doesn't come across nearly as much so in True Blood.

The books are really cleverly crafted storytelling which I like much better than any of Harris's other series.

The major premise is that so-called "supernatural" beings like wereanimals and vampires actually exist. As the first book opens, vampires have recently won full rights as citizens in the U.S. and are gradually "coming out of the coffin" now that synthetic blood has been developed, making it easier for them to assimilate.

I like the books, but I refuse to watch the show. But if you like the Harris books, then take a look at Laurell K. Hamilton's "Anita Blake" series. The first are pretty good, with a whole vampire culture, and rules that give vampires rights and all. After a while, Hamilton wrote herself into a corner, and the books turned to porn, but that doesn't mean that the first aren't worth a read.

http://www.amazon.com/Guilty-Pleasures-Anita-Vampire-Hunter/dp/0425197549/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264374488&sr=1-1

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Post by P_Synthesis on Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:13 pm

You definitely should meet my wife, sacrificialgoddess. Your tastes in lit are pretty similar. She started reading Anita Blake ages ago when we both worked in the same bookshop, and says the same about the degradation into porn.

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Post by DotNotInOz on Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:28 pm

I've dipped into Hamilton's stuff a bit but didn't like it all that well, thanks for the suggestion.

Now, on the other hand, Jacqueline Carey's Kushiel series is very well done indeed if you can stomach sado-masochism described somewhat realistically but not pruriently, I don't think. Perhaps it might more accurately be termed dominance and submission, but there appeared to me to be elements of genuine and quite natural sadism and masochism since this goes somewhat beyond merely whips raising welts. Dunno, since I'm not sure just how devotees might draw the distinctions.

Anyway, I briefly knew a guy who was into cutting and bloodletting as a sexual stimulant. I was reminded of what he said he enjoyed when I read the books. He was very matter-of-fact about what he told me he found pleasurable (and which I found really quite foreign although interesting.)

Wonderfully epic storylines with a powerful quest to rescue an abducted prince and extremely well-written. They're damnably long books though, almost as bad as Jordan's Wheel of Time ones.
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Post by gillyflower on Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:19 pm

SG, you might try Patricia Briggs "Mercy Thompson" series. She writes about shape shifters and has gone from paperback to hard back. She has become popular at the library.

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Post by sacrificialgoddess on Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:23 pm

Julie Kenner is one of my new faves:

http://www.amazon.com/Carpe-Demon-Adventures-Demon-Hunting-Soccer/dp/0425202526/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264378986&sr=1-1

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Post by DotNotInOz on Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:43 pm

Yeah, Kenner's demon-hunting mom series is pretty cute. A bit too lightweight for my tastes, but not that bad.
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