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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by Ebon on Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:46 pm

Just saw the Mr. Perfect dvd. It's not bad, constructed around the usual 45-minute documentry with match clips. Opens with a memorial for Curt Hennig which is both classy and explains to younger viewers why he's not commenting on the dvd. The documentry offers some enlightening comments from Curt's friends and family but it's let-down by the pro-WWE bias and the glossing over of some controversies (such as the real reason behind his jump to WCW and the reason WWE fired him in 2002).

However, the matches, as you'd expect, are superb. His first televised match is a time-limit draw and technical masterclass with the late Eddie Gilbert. Given how early in his career that was, Curt's performance is amazing. He was a world-class worker pretty much from day 1. An AWA tag title match alongside Scott Hall features Hall with a haircut and moustache that defy belief. The AWA title match against Nick Bockwinkel is slightly disappointing due to Bockwinkel's advancing age (he was aound 50 at this point). Moving to the WWF, there's a decent championship match (miraculous when you consider his opponant was Hulk Hogan). Then he wins the IC title and we hit high gear. Absolutely blinding matches with Shawn Michaels, Kerry Von Erich and three with Bret Hart follow, one of which is from WCW Uncensored '98. There's also a long-forgotten but rather good 1988 match with Terry Taylor. Add Curt's Hall of Fame induction, about a dozen of the introductory vignettes and the still-funny "Rap Is Crap" video and that's your lot.

Overall, not exactly illuminating but very much worth viewing for the match quality that remains stellar most of the way through disc 2.

Now, if I could just get that Rick Rude biodisc...
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by Ebon on Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:40 am

Sad bit of news: The extremely promising indie worker, Trent Acid, passed away this morning at the age of 29. No indication on cause yet.
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Post by sacrificialgoddess on Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:08 pm

Trent Acid? Is that a stage name?

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Post by Ebon on Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:21 pm

Yep, real name was Michael Verdi. Further details coming out: He was arrested for heroin possession on April 2, that was combined with previous charges for possession of drug paraphenalia and public intoxication. On May 12, he was sentanced to a maximum of 23 months confinement and mandatory rehab after cutting a deal. And he had another trial set for July 13.
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Post by sacrificialgoddess on Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:23 pm

Is it weird that wrestling stage names remind me of porn star stage names?

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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by Ebon on Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:48 pm

Nope, it's that kind of business.
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by Ebon on Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:49 am

I've just learned that Andre Baker committed suicide last month at the age of 45. Andre was a major force in British wrestling for years. He was the owner/promoter of NWA Hammerlock (one of the UK's big two promotions, the other being the FWA). He trained numerous major names in the business including Fergal Devitt, Dean Ayass, Zack Sabre, Alex Shane, Doug Williams, Jonny Storm, Jody Fleish/Flash, Gary Steele and the Waters brothers. He was also involved in training hundreds of others who never amounted to very much in the business like myself.
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by Ebon on Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:20 pm

Three big bits of news from TNA:

Firstly, Kevin Sullivan reportedly met with Dixie Carter recently. Sullivan was looking for a spot on the booking squad and has apparently planned out around a year of TNA shows in advance.

Secondly, according to rumour, Hogan and Bisch are looking to bail in the near future. The company hasn't turned around as quickly or as much as they wanted, most of the roster hates them and Panda Energy (TNA's owners) are looking at the books and noticing that TNA went from making a small but comfortable profit prior to Hogan & Bisch, to losing massive amounts of money again now. That turn around can't be entirely laid at their feet but a good portion of it can be. Specifically, since Hogan & Bisch came aboard, The Band, the Nasty Boys, Ric Flair and RVD have all signed big money contracts. Only RVD is actually justifying his fee while many of the other, less expensive workers who've debuted or returned (Shannon Moore, Jesse Neal, Frankie Kazarian) were on good terms and planning to come in anyway.

Three and the biggest: TNA have finally pulled the trigger on the Paulie option. They have met with Paulie and apparently, asked him to name his price and conditions. So desperate are TNA that virtually anything is up for negotiation including the removal of Vince Russo, Hogan and Bisch from the booking squad (Hogan & Bisch can't be entirely ejected from teh company without their agreement but they can be removed from power), the hiring of Tommy Dreamer as Paulie's booking assisstant (and occasional gimmick performer), near-absolute hiring and firing power and so on. Essentially, anything TNA can legally offer Paulie, they're offering. Negotiations are still ongoing but Paulie is interested and TNA is confident they'll be able to come to an agreement in the near future.
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by TPaine on Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:27 pm

Ebon wrote:Three big bits of news from TNA:

Secondly, according to rumour, Hogan and Bisch are looking to bail in the near future. The company hasn't turned around as quickly or as much as they wanted, most of the roster hates them and Panda Energy (TNA's owners) are looking at the books and noticing that TNA went from making a small but comfortable profit prior to Hogan & Bisch, to losing massive amounts of money again now. That turn around can't be entirely laid at their feet but a good portion of it can be. Specifically, since Hogan & Bisch came aboard, The Band, the Nasty Boys, Ric Flair and RVD have all signed big money contracts. Only RVD is actually justifying his fee while many of the other, less expensive workers who've debuted or returned (Shannon Moore, Jesse Neal, Frankie Kazarian) were on good terms and planning to come in anyway.
Didn't anyone see this going in? Bischoff spent Turner's money like it was going out of style in WCW. Hogan has always been a backstage nightmare with his pushing his friends, burying his enemies, and stroking his huge ego. The Band and Nasties would be Hogan and Bischoff. I know of no connection between Flair and any of the booking committee, but he still has an important name and for his age is still pulling his weight. RVD was a smart acquire.

Ebon wrote:Three and the biggest: TNA have finally pulled the trigger on the Paulie option. They have met with Paulie and apparently, asked him to name his price and conditions. So desperate are TNA that virtually anything is up for negotiation including the removal of Vince Russo, Hogan and Bisch from the booking squad (Hogan & Bisch can't be entirely ejected from teh company without their agreement but they can be removed from power), the hiring of Tommy Dreamer as Paulie's booking assisstant (and occasional gimmick performer), near-absolute hiring and firing power and so on. Essentially, anything TNA can legally offer Paulie, they're offering. Negotiations are still ongoing but Paulie is interested and TNA is confident they'll be able to come to an agreement in the near future.
Hence the Abyss/ECW angle. The fact that Dreamer left the WWE tells me everything is not well in Connecticut. Dreamer is the ultimate company man so things would have had to be very bad to get him to bolt. So far we have seen Dreamer, Raven, and Stevie Richards. From what I hear, Rhino will join the group. I wonder if they'll pull Team 3D out of the lame Jessie Neal angle and add them to the group. Add Sabu and Sandman and you have an interesting group that Paulie knows and can build into something interesting. A TNA vs. ECW feud if booked by Paulie could actually accomplish what the WWE failed with when they blew the WCW invasion angle.
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by Ebon on Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:48 am

TPaine wrote: Didn't anyone see this going in? Bischoff spent Turner's money like it was going out of style in WCW. Hogan has always been a backstage nightmare with his pushing his friends, burying his enemies, and stroking his huge ego. The Band and Nasties would be Hogan and Bischoff. I know of no connection between Flair and any of the booking committee, but he still has an important name and for his age is still pulling his weight. RVD was a smart acquire.


I was under the impression that Flair's hiring was down to Hogan. I'm unaware of how much TNA is paying him so I don't know if he can be said to be justifying his fee. That said, I found AJ Styles to be a really poor fit for the Naitch 2.0 project (since he is average-looking, inarticulate and kinda dim and I like the guy). Frankie Kazarian fits much better.


Hence the Abyss/ECW angle. The fact that Dreamer left the WWE tells me everything is not well in Connecticut. Dreamer is the ultimate company man so things would have had to be very bad to get him to bolt. So far we have seen Dreamer, Raven, and Stevie Richards. From what I hear, Rhino will join the group. I wonder if they'll pull Team 3D out of the lame Jessie Neal angle and add them to the group. Add Sabu and Sandman and you have an interesting group that Paulie knows and can build into something interesting. A TNA vs. ECW feud if booked by Paulie could actually accomplish what the WWE failed with when they blew the WCW invasion angle.

I'm actually enjoying the Jesse Neal storyline. While Neal himself is no great shakes, the storyline is something a bit different and I never thought I'd be able to say that of 3D again. Sabu is always a possibility. He's on good terms with RVD and has worked for TNA before without burning his bridges (possibly unique for Sabu). I think Sandy is probably out though. He's getting on and, more importantly, the years of hardcore matches have wrecked his body. He's now not very mobile although he could probably manage a role as teh ECW faction's cane-swinging enforcer. Tommy can still manage gimmick performances as long as they're used sparingly. Raven's strength was always his promos and unhinged brawling. Of those already in, Richards is the only one still in decent working condition apart from RVD. That said, there's plenty of former ECW talent around who'd be grateful for the payday and are in shape to work. Off the top of my head: Mikey Whipwreck would fit nicely into the X-Division as would Little Guido/Nunzio/Jim Maritato and Tony Mamaluke; Steve Corino is one hell of a promo and an acceptable worker who'd make a decent tag partner with someone; CW Anderson is a good, solid worker who can be relied on to do his part (maybe he and Corino could form a team?); Danny Doring & Roadkill are fun to watch. All of those talents are available, capable of working a decent match and none would cost a fortune.

And, of course, there's the RVD question. Does he join the ECW faction (which could use him, given the advancing age and banged-up condition of many of them) or stick with TNA? Either gives us plenty of storyline fodder.

I'm almost more interested in seeing where Paulie would go thereafter. An ECW invasion is an obvious angle. Don't misunderstand, if booked properly, it could provide some first-rate TV but given that one of Paulie's strengths has always been his ability to blend one storyline seamlessly into another (witness the two-and-a-half year Raven-Dreamer dispute), it's almost more intriguing to speculate on where he's take us after that.
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by TPaine on Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:11 am

Ebon wrote:
I was under the impression that Flair's hiring was down to Hogan. I'm unaware of how much TNA is paying him so I don't know if he can be said to be justifying his fee. That said, I found AJ Styles to be a really poor fit for the Naitch 2.0 project (since he is average-looking, inarticulate and kinda dim and I like the guy). Frankie Kazarian fits much better.
IMO, the New Horsemen or Fortune as it's called would be best with Kazarian, Wolfe, and Beer Money. I'd rather see AJ as a face given his wrestling talent. The only trouble with the group is you have no one to play the Ric Flair role. The only workers in TNA that I see have the ring and mic skills to equal Naitch are RVD and Kurt Angle. Ken Anderson has the mic skills and some day may develop the in ring ability, but not yet. Maybe the Pope could play the part.

Ebon wrote:I'm actually enjoying the Jesse Neal storyline. While Neal himself is no great shakes, the storyline is something a bit different and I never thought I'd be able to say that of 3D again.
I wouldn't be surprised if Devon turns on Neal at the PPV and 3D goes with the ECW group.

Ebon wrote:Sabu is always a possibility. He's on good terms with RVD and has worked for TNA before without burning his bridges (possibly unique for Sabu). I think Sandy is probably out though. He's getting on and, more importantly, the years of hardcore matches have wrecked his body. He's now not very mobile although he could probably manage a role as teh ECW faction's cane-swinging enforcer. Tommy can still manage gimmick performances as long as they're used sparingly. Raven's strength was always his promos and unhinged brawling. Of those already in, Richards is the only one still in decent working condition apart from RVD. That said, there's plenty of former ECW talent around who'd be grateful for the payday and are in shape to work. Off the top of my head: Mikey Whipwreck would fit nicely into the X-Division as would Little Guido/Nunzio/Jim Maritato and Tony Mamaluke; Steve Corino is one hell of a promo and an acceptable worker who'd make a decent tag partner with someone; CW Anderson is a good, solid worker who can be relied on to do his part (maybe he and Corino could form a team?); Danny Doring & Roadkill are fun to watch. All of those talents are available, capable of working a decent match and none would cost a fortune.
Let's not forget Mick Foley who could join the ECW group. Al Snow is currently a TNA road agent and could also fill a role. As I understand it Justin Credible is still working the indy circuit and could be used as well. Shane Douglas is a bitch to work with but he was effective in ECW and has a history with TNA.

Ebon wrote:And, of course, there's the RVD question. Does he join the ECW faction (which could use him, given the advancing age and banged-up condition of many of them) or stick with TNA? Either gives us plenty of storyline fodder.
I'd move RVD to ECW especially if it's the heel group. I always liked his arrogant heel persona in ECW. I'd also let him keep the title and have various TNA workers try to take it from him. The thing to avoid would be making TNA look second rate the way the WCW faction did during the nWo gimmick. That angle helped kill WCW.

Ebon wrote:I'm almost more interested in seeing where Paulie would go thereafter. An ECW invasion is an obvious angle. Don't misunderstand, if booked properly, it could provide some first-rate TV but given that one of Paulie's strengths has always been his ability to blend one storyline seamlessly into another (witness the two-and-a-half year Raven-Dreamer dispute), it's almost more intriguing to speculate on where he's take us after that.
Agreed. The next problem is because so many new people are being brought into TNA, in order for the company to remain profitable, there would have to be some talent cut from the roster. First of all, I'd dump Bischoff and Hogan, Nash and the rest of the Band except for Eric Young. Others I'd let go include Magnus, Matt Morgan, Orlando Jordan, Rob Terry, Suicide, and Tomko. I'd also dump Jimmy Hart and Vince Russo. All that is contingent upon Paulie coming on board. I'd also consider bringing in Joey Styles. I liked his play-by-play in ECW.
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by Ebon on Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:50 am

TPaine wrote:IMO, the New Horsemen or Fortune as it's called would be best with Kazarian, Wolfe, and Beer Money. I'd rather see AJ as a face given his wrestling talent. The only trouble with the group is you have no one to play the Ric Flair role. The only workers in TNA that I see have the ring and mic skills to equal Naitch are RVD and Kurt Angle. Ken Anderson has the mic skills and some day may develop the in ring ability, but not yet. Maybe the Pope could play the part.

Pope would work. His Rock-by-way-of-James-Brown gimmick may be simply too funny to get the crowd to boo though. I actually think Wolfe has the mic skills and talent to play the role. Is he the in-ring equivelent of Naitch? No. But then Naitch was a once-in-a-lifetime performer, we'll be lucky to find someone that good again.

]I wouldn't be surprised if Devon turns on Neal at the PPV and 3D goes with the ECW group.

I wouldn't be surprised or object to that, at least they've had something new to do.

[quote]Let's not forget Mick Foley who could join the ECW group. Al Snow is currently a TNA road agent and could also fill a role. As I understand it Justin Credible is still working the indy circuit and could be used as well. Shane Douglas is a bitch to work with but he was effective in ECW and has a history with TNA.[/color]

Shane Douglas is too broken down to work but he'd make one hell of a commentator. Credible is still good to go though, Snow probably is and Foley can still work, just not every night.

I'd move RVD to ECW especially if it's the heel group. I always liked his arrogant heel persona in ECW. I'd also let him keep the title and have various TNA workers try to take it from him. The thing to avoid would be making TNA look second rate the way the WCW faction did during the nWo gimmick. That angle helped kill WCW.

I trust Paulie on this one. He's shown himself in the past as one of the few bookers who can put the business ahead of his ego. Witness the second One Night Stand event, that was booked exclusively by Paulie and featured a fair few WWE guys scoring victories.

Agreed. The next problem is because so many new people are being brought into TNA, in order for the company to remain profitable, there would have to be some talent cut from the roster. First of all, I'd dump Bischoff and Hogan, Nash and the rest of the Band except for Eric Young. Others I'd let go include Magnus, Matt Morgan, Orlando Jordan, Rob Terry, Suicide, and Tomko. I'd also dump Jimmy Hart and Vince Russo. I'd also consider bringing in Joey Styles. I liked his play-by-play in ECW.

Joey Styles is locked with WWE for about another year. Once his contract comes up, he'd be worth bringing aboard. Bisch, Hogan and the Band, minus Eric Young, can go. Young is a worthwhile performer though. Magnus is pretty much worthless now that Doug Williams has gone solo, Jordan was always worthless and even I find his gimmick offensive. Morgan was always a waste of space, Rob Terry isn't justifying his paycheque. Jimmy Hart was only hired to appease Hogan so he can go. Russo is... well, Russo. Suicide is already gone since it was Kazarian under the mask and he's gone back to his original persona and Tomko has no place for him. I also don't think Chelsea adds anything to Wolfe's package and ODB's time is pretty much up. While I don't want to outright fire him, I also wouldn't renew Sting's contract when it comes up. Steve Borden turned up in good shape and he's given it his best shot but the company can't afford to carry his contract going forward.

With the money that frees up, hopefully we're back in the black and can rehire Chris Daniels and Petey Williams. And if Brian Danielson is interested in coming in, well, if I praised Danielson any more, it would probably constitute sexual harassment.
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by TPaine on Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:15 pm

Je ne comprends pas pourquoi Vince fired Danielson. Is he opposed to having talented workers in the WWE? Evan Bourne is decent, but he's no Danielson, Sabin, Shelly, AJ, Mysterio, etc. I wonder who Bryan rubbed the wrong way.
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by Ebon on Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:33 pm

Word has it that it was Bryan's actions during the NXT assault on John Cena (which incidently, was awesome) that got him fired. Specifically, him spitting in Cena's face was approved by Cena but not by Vince and his choking ring announcer Justin Roberts with his tie was a spur-of-the-moment ad-lib. Apparently, both actions went beyond WWE's TV-PG guidelines and it was felt the tie-choking was a little too reminiscent of the Benoit Tragedy considering Linda's current Senate run.

Yes, I think this is bloody stupid. But I think Danielson is amazing.
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Post by Ebon on Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:52 pm

Couple of bits from the ongoing Victory Road PPV (spoilers so skip it if you're catching it later). I'm getting this from highlights being posted at various sites:

- Devon didn't turn on Jesse Neal. It's looking possible that this could lead to the dissolution of 3D with Devon forming an alliance with Neal. Which may fail but at least it's a fresh angle.

- The card opened with an Ultimate X Submission match (basically, a plain submission match with the Ultimate X cables up) between Doug Williams and Brian Kendrick. Worked suprisingly well, mixing technical exchanges with high-flying spots so both workers looked great. Williams continues to get his British style over to the fans as he scored the win by choking out Kendrick with a modified cobra clutch with body scissors.
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by Ebon on Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:14 am

Paulie has done an interview with The Sun here (low-brow ultraright tabloid but notable for it's excellent wrestling coverage). On the subject of joining TNA:
"There's nothing that I'm doing now that will pay $25-30million dollars over the course of the next five years.

"If that's a situation that can happen, and I can also put a team together and put together a five year plan, then it merits a lot of consideration.

"If it's anything less than that - then I'm not taking the time away from my children."
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by TPaine on Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:55 pm

Ebon wrote:Paulie has done an interview with The Sun here (low-brow ultraright tabloid but notable for it's excellent wrestling coverage). On the subject of joining TNA:
"There's nothing that I'm doing now that will pay $25-30million dollars over the course of the next five years.

"If that's a situation that can happen, and I can also put a team together and put together a five year plan, then it merits a lot of consideration.

"If it's anything less than that - then I'm not taking the time away from my children."
Note to Dixie Carter: Make it happen. It's money well spent.
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by Ebon on Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:35 pm

Fully agreed. If Paulie wants the soul of your firstborn, offer it (although he's Jewish so he probably wouldn't be interested). The money is the easy part, just give him whatever he asks for (including a share of the profits, if he'd like that). There's a few people from ECW that Paulie liked to have around to bounce ideas off but two of them are already with the company (Raven and Brother Ray) and the other (Tommy) is apparently on his way in. Really, the only rule I'd put in place here is not to bring in New Jack (since he's a PR timebomb).

That said, I wonder if Dixie gets it. She held a talent meeting a couple of days ago and actually berated the talent for being "lazy". While TNA does employ a few lazy performers, most of them came in with Hogan. Most of the mainstay TNA crowd works their socks off and are, understandably, hopping mad. The talent knows, just like we do, that it's the booking that's at fault. Paulie nurtured a tiny Tri-State promotion into a credible national promotion on the back of a roster of mid-carders (initially, anyway), clever booking and canny promotion. Discounting the dead weight that came in with Hogan, TNA has an incredibly strong roster but they're mostly used badly.

ECW took years to get all the frills of a modern promotion like PPV, merchandising, decent production values (partly because Paul had never run a promotion before and had no idea what he was doing at the start). TNA already has all of those. The roster is mostly strong so you could put any competent booker in the driver's seat and they could hit the ground running (forgive the mixed metaphor). If you put Pailie in that position, you get some name recognition, you get a crack at the market sector that never really migrated from ECW to WWE and you get his proven strengths in storytelling.
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by Ebon on Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:38 pm

Apparently, TNA's "Hard Justice" PPV will have an ECW reunion theme and currently, Dixie is trying to secure Jerry Lynn for a main event match with RVD. Assuming Lynn is still in decent shape, that's a great choice. RVD and Lynn always brought the best out of one another and had some of the classic ECW wrestling matches and they're capable of working a great match without gimmicks (the Van Daminator aside). Give them twenty to thirty minutes and they should be able to put on a fantastic match.
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by TPaine on Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:18 pm

I admit I got swerved by Abyss' "They" gimmick. Since he usually talked about it when the ECW workers entered the arena, I was sure that was who "They" were, but after last week I have to say I was wrong. I have no idea who "They" are unless it has some connection to some indy workers and James Mitchell. Any ideas?
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by TPaine on Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:56 pm

I still can't understand WWE booking. They keep the belt on Sheamus who I would rate as a mid-carder at best, and now they're pushing the Nexus, all the members of which would be working the curtain jerker were it not for the gang gimmick. The idea of pushing a group which has a gang image and colors (the 7 on 1 beat-downs & the matching armbands) is not what I would want to be booking in an organization that claims to be child friendly.
Rumors are that HHH will return as a heel and the leader of the Nexus after he finishes filming the (direct to DVD?) movies he is starring in.
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by Ebon on Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:29 am

I'm just speculating but my only guess involves Jim Mitchell and his ROH stablemates from The Embassy.

Money In The Bank: Vince stole my idea! Again! Remember my idea that the winner of MITB at 'Mania should march down and cash his title shot in on that same card? My thinking was that it would have maximum shock value and cement a top-line heel. Well, Vince used the idea at MITB. Unfortunately, he used it with Kane.

Now, that's not knocking Glen Jacobs. I have a lot of respect for Jacobs (if for nothing else than suffering through a parade of shitty gimmicks with no complaints) but Kane suffers the problem that it seems to be impossible to get fans to consistently boo him. No matter what heinous acts Kane commits, there is always a faction of the audience that loves him and part of teh point of the excercise was to make someone into a sure-fire heel.

The Miz won the other MITB match. I actually don't have much objection to that one. Miz should be ready to move up in a few months and he has until 'Mania to cash in the shot.
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by Ebon on Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:42 am

Sheamus has friends in high places, which pretty much explains everything. He's Triple's buddy and apparently, Vince likes his look (Vince likey the muscle men). I think he'd do better to recede into the mid-card for a year or so and readjust his style, keeping the big power moves but adding some of the technical style that, I promise, he is capable of. He still wouldn't be top-line material but he wouldn't be so glaringly out of place.

With regard to Nexus, I'm not sure what's going on here either. I mean, I understood the logic of using the NXT show to groom a fresh batch of talent, that made sense (much like the old Tough Enough show). But with TE, the winners were never pushed like this, they were given a match on RAW to see what they learned and then packed off for further training. The current crop in Nexus are promising and a couple of them could evolve into good hands in a few years but right now, they're green as grass.

And you're right, the image they've been given is very much that of a street gang, complete with colours and multi-man beatdowns. So Danielson, the only one capable of working main event matches straight away is fired for making a beatdown look a little more realistic while the rest are encouraged to act like a wrestling version of The Warriors? No, I don't get it either.

As for Trips being the leader, that makes no sense at all but being Tripper, it wouldn't surprise me if he pokes his not inconsiderable nose into yet another main event angle.
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by Ebon on Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:04 pm

Random newsbites:
- Kevin Nash recently tweeted that Scott Hall is out of hospital, "clean for 20+ days, he'll outlive us all". While I'm happy that Hall is clean (and I'll be even happier if he manages to stay clean), the years of drug and alcohol abuse makes me think that "oulive us all" is wishful thinking.

- Dawn Marie recently admitted to having used steroids in the past. That amazes me. While I'm aware that a few female workers use steroids, Dawn was never a worker, she was a valet so why she was roiding baffles me.

- Those close to Shawn Michaels say that he's giving every impression of being retired for real i.e. that while he may do the occasional appearence here and there, he feels that his match with the Undertaker was the perfect way to cap a career and he has absolutely no intention of wrestling again. Personally, I hope that's true. It would make Michaels one of the few genuine legends to go out on his own terms and at the top of his game. I don't want to have to write any more obituaries. I want to see wrestlers happily growing old, maybe doing the occasional interview to look back. Bill Moody (Paul Bearer) is what I'd like to see in retired wrestlers: Happy, healthy (the infirmities of age aside), financially comfortable and doing the occasional nostalgic interview. If Shawn has chosen to walk away and spend his time raising his kids and having a good life, more power to him.

- Bret Hart recently married for the third time. Apparently, his participation in SummerSlam forced them to change the dates of their honeymoon.

- Northwest Wrestling has managed to book an Awesome Kong vs. Mickie James match. Here's hoping that leaks online because I'd love to see it.

- Paulie was at Comic-Con, repeatedly got lost, swore a lot and announced his new project. Apparently, it'll be a browser game based around fantasy wrestling and MMA. Kind of a fantasy baseball for combat sports fans and it'll follow a similar business model to Mafia Wars. Current plan is to launch fourth quarter of this year.
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Re: Wrestling thread

Post by TPaine on Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:07 am

Confirmed talent for the TNA/ECW Hardcore Justice PPV on 8 August:

TNA Talent:
RVD
Mick Foley
Team 3D
Raven
Rhino
Stevie Richards
Simon Diamond (Backstage Agent)
Al Snow (Backstage Agent)
Taz
Tommy Dreamer

Talent Outside TNA Confirmed:
Sabu
2 Cold Scorpio
CW Anderson
The Sandman
Jerry Lynn

Talent Contacted But Not Confirmed:
Spike Dudley
Members of the FBI
Balls Mahoney
Bill Alfonzo
Shane Douglas
Johnny Swinger
Axl Rotten

Contacted But Will Not Appear:
Lance StormSteve Corino

Confirmed Matches:
RVD vs. Jerry Lynn (main event)
Tommy Dreamer vs. Raven (co-main event)

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