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Paul's gospel must be accepted

Post by newnature on Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:10 pm

Paul’s gospel must be accepted, it must be believed today, and you can be sure that confusion concerning that gospel through the use of a counterfeit gospel; a gospel that looks so much like Paul’s gospel that you’d not know the difference, if you didn’t clearly know Paul’s gospel, will be Satan’s focus in this age of grace.

One of Satan’s purpose in this age of grace is to confuse Paul’s gospel with a gospel so nearly to it, and there are many people out there today saying all you have to do is to believe in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and you’re saved. They believe this in almost every church across the board that Christ died, was buried and rose again, but what do they believe was accomplished by that death, burial and resurrection?

In their minds, they are separating themselves for God by their sin, and Paul is saying that God has already reconciled you where your sins are concerned. God is reconciled where the sins of the world are concerned, because he imputed those sins to Christ, that all who would believe what he imputed to Christ, that that resolved the sin issue forever, and are now joined to his son and have his righteousness freely counted to them, or imputed to their account.

Paul called it the ministry of reconciliation, Christ fulfilled the law for us, so we are identified with the righteousness of Christ the moment we take God at his word, obedient to the faith, concerning what Christ accomplished on our behalf. Today our service comes not out of apprehension to any of those things; our service today comes based solely on our appreciation for what Christ has already done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dcdkkkgEcE

The subject of reconciliation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOkizenjTD8

An appeal from Paul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sN6ee1CvjY

The Pauline pattern

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhMnye-E8pA

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Post by gillyflower on Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:58 pm

It really doesn't have to be accepted. A lot of people here are not Christians and they do not have a god named Satan in their pantheon. Satan is a Christian god.

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Re: Paul's gospel must be accepted

Post by John T Mainer on Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:35 pm

It would be intersting to see what other sects of Christianity see in this proposition. For myself it is a bit like a fish telling me that breathing air will kill me; possibly a reasonable assumption for something with gills, but only among other gill users. For myself, the air is fine up here Cool Wink

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Re: Paul's gospel must be accepted

Post by DeavonReye on Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:09 pm

What is most important in what you said is this:

"....that all who would believe what he imputed to Christ, that that resolved the sin issue forever, and are now joined to his son and have his righteousness freely counted to them, or imputed to their account."

Emphasis mine.

What does Christ do for those who DON'T believe the claims of "the suffering Christ"? Because you also said, "God is reconciled where the sins of the world are concerned, because he imputed those sins to Christ...".

What is the "for those who believe" part about?

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Re: Paul's gospel must be accepted

Post by Gorm_Sionnach on Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:55 pm

I haven't asked for the forgiveness of YHWH, not being one of his and all, so not my concern.

Tell me though, if a stranger... well lets say a celebrity, someone you knew but didn't particularly care for, came up to you and said that "You are welcome, I've absolved all of your wrong doing (past and present) and so have saved you, all I ask in return is eternal loyalty and servitude to me and my dad..."

You're telling me that the reasonable response is, "Of course I'll follow you!"?

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Re: Paul's gospel must be accepted

Post by John T Mainer on Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:12 pm

Gorm_Sionnach wrote:I haven't asked for the forgiveness of YHWH, not being one of his and all, so not my concern.

Tell me though, if a stranger... well lets say a celebrity, someone you knew but didn't particularly care for, came up to you and said that "You are welcome, I've absolved all of your wrong doing (past and present) and so have saved you, all I ask in return is eternal loyalty and servitude to me and my dad..."

You're telling me that the reasonable response is, "Of course I'll follow you!"?

Tell your dad he needs to learn to respect peoples boundaries. I have my own family, thank you, and have no need of yours. While I thank you for your offering, I must say that it has no meaning to our people, and could easily be taken as an insult if offered by one of another people to one of our own. Not to be rude, but your family is disfunctional, has customs that strain the boundaries of our tolerance at the best of times, and really needs to deal with its own issues before it can think to speak about others. I wish you well on your path, such as it is, but thank you to leave me to my own.

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Re: Paul's gospel must be accepted

Post by tmarie64 on Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:42 pm

I don't follow links. You're gonna have to tell me in REAL PERSON SPEAK, not preacher and bible jargon.... WHY "must" Paul's gospel be accepted?

I do not EVER follow links from people I don't know. And I definitely will not follow links that will take me to preaching. And I have no doubt, those are preaching links.

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Re: Paul's gospel must be accepted

Post by DeavonReye on Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:33 am

Tmarie, they are preaching links. Some guy preaching from a pulpit.
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Post by tmarie64 on Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:10 am

Yeah, I figured as much, Deavon. Smile



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